Open Case File 014-2014
Location: SE Oklahoma, Atoka County
Case Type: History of Secrets About Sasquatch with Native People
Time Frame: Early 1800s through Today
Investigator: Troy Hudson, Sasquatch Genome Project
On 06-30-2014 I was contacted through "word of mouth" by a gentleman that wanted to relay some information that he knew about Sasquatch from stories that he had collected by his brother and father. This investigator will refer to this gentleman as "Frank" he wishes that his name and family be kept in strict confidentiality. Hence that title of the investigation, "Secrets about Sasquatch with Native People". Origins of initial contact to this investigator is that Frank had been to the Honobia Bigfoot Conference in 2010. He heard our stories at the storytelling on Friday night (10-1-2010) and was instantly interested in the fact that we had so many witness that were eager to share stories that were related to Native People. Frank was raised with tradition and culture values of his tribe. Frank is a combination of Seminole and Creek, he was raised in far Northeastern Oklahoma. Frank told stories that this investigator has heard many times, there are stories from family and stories that come from the tribe. All in all most stories start out with "as it was told to me". This by some people is referring to that fact that the person telling the story is giving credit to the one that the story originally came from. Some may say it is only way to stay neutral in the fact the story maybe so far fetched as to the storyteller saying "it isn't me that made this up". Either way just about all historical nature of Bigfoot/Sasquatch stories are going to come from oral history of accounts. It is the listener that will have to make up her/his mind if she/he wants to believe the story. However, here is what was told by Frank.
Over the past 30 years Frank has had an interest in Sasquatch and has always had the fascination of if the stories he heard as a child were true or just "bedtime" stories. Either way the stories he heard were not talked about to outsiders by tribal people. Frank asked this investigator if I had visited any tribal land and heard stories from any elders? This investigator has been to many tribal properties and spoke with several elders over the years. Coincidence that this investigator had spoken to a tribal elder just this past spring during a visit to a location near Anadarko, Oklahoma. This trip had similar investigative findings about "secret stories from the tribe about "the wild man". Frank used the words "Big Brother" from his father's stories, he also said that in his belief's that most of the stories he personally heard always referred to them as our "distant brothers" or "broken family". The later was that Frank referred to is describing that his father was told by his elder's that the "Big People" Sasquatch are not much more than genetic-blood relatives that separated from us hundreds of years ago. "Separated, a.k.a broken". Frank said that he knows a place near the Neosho River in NE Oklahoma that several years ago the people that lived within a mile of the river were scared to go out at night. The description of loud screams and large dark figures in the woods near people's home resulted in calls to 911. Frank went onto to say that his father remembers that when he was a kid the areas near the river were off limits, never visited, and were left alone by the "old timers" of his grand-father's generation, because the "Big Man" lives there, the Sasquatch name was used later in his adult years. His father also said that they would leave food, (bread and corn) out for the "Big Man" so he wouldn't steal any of their chickens. Frank was asked what time frame were the stories he was told date back to. Since some of his stories that he was told date back to his great-grandfather, he believes they go far back to the early 1900s.
Frank gave several websites that he had researched and shared with this investigator that gave accounts of stories that were almost identical to what he had heard and researched himself. Here are some excerpts with links to the websites.
Website #1
"Both whites and indians have stories that they rarely tell because they are so paranormal in nature"
"Let me tell you about something that people don’t talk about here"
" the Hairy Man is somehow related to this area in a big way and my ancestors, having been the first to settle this area, have had extensive experiences with the Hairy Men that have been buried under generations of secrecy and tight lips"
"Only a select circle, including my father, remembers these incidents. Almost nobody talks about them"
"The tight lipped nature of Bigfoot is something people need to understand. This world is so full of cynics and boring people that it is assumed if anything ‘fantastic’ happens it must be made into a headline. That’s simply not true. People who have traumatic and personal experiences with these things do not want attention for it. They don’t want anyone to know about it"
http://www.ghosttheory.com/2011/10/10/generational-stories-group-of-native-americans-kill-sasquatch
Website #2
"The Lakota, or western Sioux, call Bigfoot Chiye-tanka (Chiha-tanka in Dakota or eastern Sioux); "chiye" means "elder brother" and "tanka" means "great" or "big".
"He is both spirit and real being,...."
"They exist in another dimension from us, but can appear in this dimension whenever they have a reason to. See, it's like there are many levels, many dimensions. When our time in this one is finished, we move on to the next...."
"The Big Man comes from God. He's our big brother, kind of looks out for..."
"...view Bigfoot much in the same way the Hopi do, as a messenger from the Creator trying to warn humans to change their ways or face disaster...."
"Bigfoot is seen as a kind of "brother" to humans"
http://web.ncf.ca/bz050/HomePage.bfna.html
There is another area that Frank talked about briefly was the old stories of the war between the Bigfoot and Indians. This investigator has seen and heard many stories about the "Human and Bigfoot War of 1855". There are several different versions of these stories, one is that it was a war between the Choctaw Indians and the Bigfoot's of S.E. Oklahoma (Kiamichi Mountains area). Another is that it was a combination of White Settlers and Indians fighting the Bigfoot after the Bigfoot would steal food and children from the Indians and Settlers. Some versions of the stories (even from tribal historians) give indications that this took place much earlier than 1855, maybe even in the 1830's. This investigator will conduct an separate investigation into these stories/reports. In conclusion, Frank opens up several interesting points that when you get down to the heart of things is that, most traditional native/tribal elders and historians will not talk about Bigfoot/Sasquatch to non-believers and even to other people in the Tribe. It has become an unwritten rule about disclosing any knowledge about Bigfoot to anyone. Some refer to it as a "taboo". This investigator has heard many reason's why no one wants to talk about Bigfoot, common words were "no respect" "people want to turn it into Hollywood" and "creation of God, must be respected, not put on TV". Either way you want to chose there are most likely hundreds if not thousands of stories that lay within our family's generations. This investigator was told several years ago that even my own family (On my mother's side) has Bigfoot stories from when she was a child growing up. Why were stories like these never spoke of? If they were made up for fantasy or whatever, then why are they not being told? You never know why people do, think, and say what they do. This investigator knows two separate elders that will not speak of what they know of Bigfoot/Sasquatch, all that is said is "The truth, no one really wants to hear" "Let things be, they are with the Creator". Frank gave one excellent statement, "people should realize that what we know about our history is very little, truth is as only good as it is when it was witnessed or heard by the first person to see or hear it" How much is real and how much is fantasy to make the story more glamorous? To be continued............
Case Status: Open
Insert: Photo of right foot print (Winter of 2011). Suspected juvenile Sasquatch, this print was discovered the next the next morning in a dried creek bed after a long night of activity. The suspected juvenile Sasquatch was observed by several witnesses walking in this area during the night. Suspected juvenile Sasquatch is believed to be no more than 5 feet and 8 inches tall.
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